Back to all episodes'The Interview': Rutger Bregman Wants to Save Elites From Their Wasted Lives
Published on May 17, 2025 by thedaily@nytimes.com (The New York Times)
Show Notes
The historian and writer is on a mission to get the best and brightest out of their lucrative jobs and into morally ambitious work. Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything
from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or
on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.
Listen Now
Listen and subscribe on your favorite platform.